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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 2:22 am 
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One of Amanda Knox and Raffaele Sollecito's most impassioned, some say would say too much so, defenders was ex-FBI agent Steve Moore.

Steve Moore:
"I spent years of my life working on cases in the federal courts, from simple murder to mass shootings to weapons of mass destruction. In the U.S., the totality of the evidence and the hunches of the investigators in this matter would not have been sufficient to get a search warrant, much less take somebody to trial. The case is completely flawed in every way. The physical evidence against Amanda and Raffaele is wrong, contrived, misinterpreted, and (to put it kindly) misstated. The other “evidence” is made up of (embarrassingly naïve) hunches and bias. The “DNA” evidence is particularly inaccurate. The alleged motive and modus operandi of Knox/Sollecito is so tortured (and constantly-changing) that it defies belief.

Amanda would not even have been a suspect in any US investigation. A sex murder occurs and your prime suspect is the female roommate? Experienced, or simply competent investigators would have known that statistically, 90% of murders are committed by men. When women commit murder, only 16% use a knife, and close examination might show that the vast majority of those are gang-related. Any conclusion that involves a woman stabbing another woman is statistically so rare, that it should be looked at with great suspicion".

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We know that PMF members Some Alibi and The Machine spent a great deal of time investigating ex-FBI agent Steve Moore's analysis of the case. Their posts on the website True Justice for Meredith Kercher, which is run by an ex-UN official Peter Quennell, were tough, but fair, imo.

Steve Moore replied with a withering attack on his blog, which I reproduce here. Shortly before that, one Bruce Fischer, who runs a pro Amanda Knox Injustice in Perugia, revealed a number of unpublished e-mails purported to have been sent by Peter Quennell. The question, which I posted on the main thread, was, did Steve Moore investigate three members of PMF, and were his motives personal, or because they had attacked him? Here is the full post:

"We know that Steve Moore was initially approached by Bruce Fischer in 2010 (according to his wife Michelle) Shortly after that, the 'ballerina e-mails" surfaced, seen by many as a blatant attempt to discredit Peter Quennell and silence his advocacy for Meredith Kercher. I often wondered if the source of that information was not Bruce Fischer, but Steve Moore? It fits in with what we know of FBI history, with J. Edgar Hoover's enemies list, and attempts to silence his political opponents.

Here is what Steve Moore published on his blog a year ago in June of 2011: http://www.gmancasefile.com/1/archives/06-2011/1.html

"Yet immediately, a group of nameless trolls began questioning my credentials. People who refused to identify themselves by name or occupation began to question who I said I was, and cast doubt on whether I really was an FBI Agent. This from people with dignified names such as ‘harryrag,’ ‘fast pete’ and ‘somealibi.’ At the same time, all three of these particular trolls claimed to have inside information and/or expertise on the case. But they would not identify themselves except for the “somealibi,” who claims to be an attorney. (This claim was investigated and is in serious doubt.)

“Fast pete,” it turned out, appears to be a certain 70 year-old accused serial-liar for whom no employment records can be found for the last 20 years; and who was recently threatened with arrest by NYPD for stalking young women. Likely the nickname was given to him by his wife.

The final poster, “harry rag,” has not been identified as of yet, though he is by far the most prodigious anti-Knox & Sollecito poster (but is strangely silent about Rudy Guede, the only accused who is not appealing his conviction, and who has admitted his involvement.) He claims to have inside knowledge on the case and speaks with great passion on the matter, but again, refuses steadfastly to identify himself, which raises the question of either his veracity, his motivation or his real concern. All three trolls attack others personally and professionally; demonstrably lying and threatening. One common theme of theirs seems to be sexual. My wife, who has also identified herself by name, has received some of the most disgusting pornography E-mailed from harry rag, and has been the subject of vile sexual suggestions and requests from harryrag and others associated with them. She has been called every name in the book by harry, fast pete and others"

I see two things wrong here. On the one hand, Steve Moore appears to have put some effort into investigating three members of the PMF community. On the other hand, while he claims to know a lot about them, and has er, specialized tools for getting back at them, he never filed a complaint for harassing his wife? Hmm, but I know that is what I would have done.

So this is an open invitation for Steve Moore to reply to the questions raised about the veracity of his claims, and whether he did investigate the three individuals named here. May I just add though, that I have known many individuals in law enforcement, military, and intelligence services, all of whom had high standards of professionalism and self discipline. I am really surprised, therefore, to see you use a blog to attack people with whom you disagree on just this one case. I look forward to your reply at your earliest convenience".

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1) Many Huff Post comments by her here: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/mi ... n=comments and here: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/mi ... on=profile

2) Three short comments here by Michellesings http://lesswrong.com/lw/1ir/survey_on_a_current_event/

3) Four short comments by Michellesings here: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/mattwarren

4) Many short Twitter messages here. Now on privacy settings. http://twitter.com/michellesings

5) Several short comments: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/09/ ... 4181.shtml In the top post Mellas is often called Ellas.

6) http://www.youtube.com/user/michellesings

7) http://www.myspace.com/michellesings1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4OreHVUM10 Steve Moore CBS

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCLDGTo0F6E Steve Moore King5 TV

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vS61FC2SXU Steve Moore KOMO 4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkQrIqmoUcQ Steve Moore ABC

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJqcyoepe8Y Steve Moore KOMO RAW

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lw5jq6uhX60 Steve Moore Today Show

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/ ... da-knox.do

Pepperdine Info

http://www.pepperdine-graphic.com/mobil ... -1.2387693



(note 30/9/10; 1/10/10; 5/10/10; 14/10/10)

http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2011/0 ... es-to.html
Amanda Knox' Defender Replies to Analysis : The Moores

Steve Moore CV

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http://melibeeglobal.com/2010/12/interv ... dy-abroad/
Steve Moore interview

http://vodpod.com/watch/4362468-former- ... s-innocent
Steve Moore interview

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/ ... da-knox.do
Steve Moore

http://www.amazon.com/Injustice-Perugia ... geNumber=2
http://www.amazon.com/review/RHWF8P75MW ... hisHelpful
Michelle Moore review of Injustice in Perugia and comments

http://michellesings1.blogspot.com/2011 ... rcher.html
MM's blog about the movie and comments

http://www.martinliterarymanagement.com ... arlene.htm
'I am Not Jack Bauer' by Steve Moore

http://www.thegaylekingshow.com/b/Amand ... 22786.html
Gayle King Show Interview

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 2:39 pm 
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Former FBI agent Steve Moore: Amanda Knox is innocent

At 3:26:

Interviewer: No book deal, no other financial interest?

Steve Moore: ...No, there's no financial interest, I'm not writing a book, I'm not in this for that.

And then later: Special Agent Man: My Life in the FBI as a Terrorist Hunter, Helicopter Pilot, and Certified Sniper [Paperback]

# Paperback: 336 pages
# Publisher: Chicago Review Press (August 1, 2012)
# Language: English
# ISBN-10: 0914090704
# ISBN-13: 978-0914090700

Each paperback at $12.37 and kindle versions at $14.45 a pop. Kerching!!!

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Steve Moore's appearance on CNN's OutFront hosted by Erin Burnett

Steve Moore was invited as a guest together with Paul Callan on CNN's OutFront hosted by Erin Burnett on two consecutive days, January 30th and 31st, 2014.

Paul Callan is a CNN legal analyst, trial attorney, a former NYC homicide prosecutor and partner at Callan, Koster, Brady & Brennan LLP in NY.

Steve Moore vented his conspiracy theories but was challenged by Paul Callan. His appearance was followed by another ugly public episode from his ranting and raving wife, Michelle Moore, who attacked Paul Callan on Twitter and on CNN's website, accusing him of having been misinformed by the Kerchers.

Transcript of Steve Moore's appearance on CNN's OutFront on January 30th, 2014


Erin Burnett: “In the United States this is a case that arouses passionate points of view and the majority of Americans who follow this case believe that Amanda Knox is innocent. Why do you think they are wrong?”

Paul Callan: “Well, I don’t have a personal opinion on this, but I do have the opinion that we have an obligation to respect the Italian system and they heard all of the evidence in this case and, you know, the one name we haven’t heard is Meredith Kercher. She was a young woman in her twenties, stabbed 40 times and that’s why British public opinion and Italian public opinion is anti Amanda Knox. Now what’s the case against her? One: The Italian say she confessed to the crime. Then she recanted the confession but she also wrote it out in addition to orally confessing to the crime. They say her DNA is linked to the murder. It’s on the murder weapon. They say that her DNA by the way was found mixed with Meredith Kercher’s blood at the apartment. Then they say she acted totally inappropriately after the murder.”

Erin Burnett: “There’s the cartwheels that you are referring to?”

Paul Callan: “Well, there was a claim that she was doing cartwheels at the police station. There’s also a claim that she and her boyfriend were making out in the area that they were being held while questioning was going on. Now this while Meredith Kercher, her best friend and roommate, lies stabbed to death. So everyone thought inappropriate conduct. Now let me add one other thing the Italian say. They say that Sollecito and her alibi, now the alibi was that they were together at the time of the murder, however, when they interviewed him first, his alibi was different than her alibi.”

Erin Burnett: “So the stories didn’t match up?”

Paul Callan: “The stories didn’t match up. So they say false alibi, DNA, inappropriate behaviour, and she confessed to the crime. How can you ridicule the Italians for convicting on that evidence?”

Erin Burnett: “Steve, when it’s laid out like that it does make a real case for a guilty verdict. You have looked into this, you have gone, you have looked at the evidence in Italy. Why do you say it proves Amanda Knox is innocent?”

Steve Moore: “Well, because unlike detective Callan, I have looked into the case. Callan just repeated only what the Italian said. He has said he has no opinion on it and that means he hasn’t looked at the evidence first hand. Therefore, if he is as he say … uh … says, a New York homicide detective, had he looked at that information, had he looked at every bit of evidence, he would agree with me and he wouldn’t be spouting the Italian lie. I know that’s his job … uh … as a correspondent …”

Erin Burnett: “Ok. So … so … alright. I know he’s gonna want to reply to that, of course, because you are maligning his name, but lay out for me, please, why you say … [interrupted by Steve Moore]”

Steve Moore: “Prove me wrong with the evidence.”

Erin Burnett: “Ok, but make your case first. Why is that wrong? When you have the DNA mixed on the knife, when you have a confession twice made and recanted … [interrupted by a shouting Steve Moore]”

Steve Moore: “There was no confession!”

Erin Burnett: “These are points he makes, the prosecution is making. Tell me why, from your investigation, it’s wrong.”

Steve Moore: “First of all, there was no DNA mixed on the knife. The second trial proved, with independent experts, that the DNA they claimed was the victims was not on the knife. It was thrown out. So you have to accept that. There was no DNA of the victim on the knife. Amanda cooked with that knife and it was in a kitchen drawer. It was, as the detective will know, this was a disorganised crime scene. They do not keep the weapon. They do not go places to get the other weapon. Again, the knife did not fit the wounds. So how can you say that that knife committed the crime? There was another knife print of the knife that did fit the wounds. That was never found. So the knife is out. Then the confession is out … and … because … and the detective will have to agree with me on this, if you give me 53 hours with a suspect and I can slap them, hit them, deny water, food , anything, I can get detective Callan to admit to the crime. If you then go to the bra claps and admit that that thing was recovered six weeks after the crime in a crime scene that had been released and the independent DNA experts say that Raff … ”

Erin Burnett: “Meaning contamination?”

Steve Moore: “Right. And it’s said that even with that, the DNA that they said it was Raffaele’s was actually a woman’s DNA. So, you don’t have the DNA on the bra clasp, you don’t have the knife, you don’t have any confession, and that … that … that alleged cartwheel was yoga moves to end stress and this making out that they said happen was a woman standing outside her own house where her best friend had just been slaughtered and her boyfriend is holding on to her to comfort her and they pecked two or three times on the lips. That’s making out. And it offends me when people talk about this case without looking into it.”

Paul Callan: “You know, Steve has very impressive investigative credentials, but he should realise that I am not a detective, I am a lawyer. So you should have done a little bit more investigation on that before you sat in the chair. And my position … [Steve Moore interrupts]”

Steve Moore: “I was reading your lower thirds.”

Paul Callan: “Yeah, ok.”

Steve Moore: “It said detective.”

Paul Callan: “Alright. I read your upper thirds and what I found is that you have very impressive credentials but even in this country we don’t let former FBI agents decide guilt or innocence. We let juries decide guilt or innocence. And the one thing about this case … and I wasn’t in court, nor were you. But I do know this … [Steve Moore interrupts]”

Steve Moore: “Yes, I was.”

Paul Callan: “I do know this … ”

Steve Moore: “Yes, I was.”

Paul Callan: “Maybe for part of the trials you were, I don’t think you were there for all of the trials. I do know that you have this case going all the way to the Italian Supreme Court. You have six individuals evaluating it at the intermediate level, you have a lower court level. Court after court after court in the end has said ‘You know, there is enough evidence here to convict her’. In much the same way it might be said in the United States, so I am saying there is enough evidence here for them to have based a judgement on.”

Transcript of Steve Moore's appearance on CNN's OutFront on January 31st, 2014


Erin Burnett: “I simply wanna ask this. It seems, you know, people … uh … some people just assume ‘oh, it’s a bad justice system, they didn’t do it right’. Well, still, I mean, reasonable doubt is a very very difficult thing to prove. And it is never been, you know, … that’s a matter of … it’s a subjective comment. It’s not like everyone knows what happened that night. They don’t. So how can we just say there system is bad because she got convicted.”

Paul Callan: “Well, you know, I don’t think you can say that and I don’t think it’s fair to say that. With the Italian system, it’s different than ours because it’s sort of a combined judge-jury system. You’ve got a judge and sometimes two judges and then lay people who sit on the court and hear the evidence. And that’s on the lower court, the trial court, it’s in the middle level court and then it eventually goes to the Supreme Court. But in the end, this evidence has been looked at and analysed by a huge number of judges and ordinary people and ultimately we now have a finding of guilt. So I think you can’t say that their process isn’t a correct process. They looked carefully at this evidence. You might disagree with their analysis but they certainly tried to be careful.”

Erin Burnett: “So Steve, to that point, first of all, I just wanna go to some of the evidence. I know you find all of this evidence not to be compelling and you’ve gone through reasons why. I don’t need you to do that tonight, but I just go through it, right. The knife had her DNA, Meredith’s, on it. You said the knife did not fit the profile of the knife that was used to kill Meredith. There was a bra clasp, that you believe was tainted, a false confession, a bloody footprint that may have belonged to Sollecito, and a homeless man who said he saw them. That was some of the evidence and you have explained away a lot of it, but can you really explain away all of it? Is there a little tiny part in your mind where you don’t know?”

Steve Moore: “No, there’s noth .. there’s no part of me that doesn’t know. And by the way, I do respect … uh … Mr. Callan’s … uh … experience … with … with prosecutions. I am a prosecution guy by heart. It is not that I disagree … simply disagree with this bad evidence. As Mr. Callan will tell you there are rules of evidence. And if rules of evidence aren’t followed then bad evidence gets in. I am not saying that this is legitimate evidence that is misinterpreted, I am saying this is illegitimate evidence that should have never come into a court, never would have come into a United States court because it is illegitimate. It is like playing a football game … [Erin Burnett interrupts him with a question]”

Erin Burnett: “But even if that evidence is illegitimate, let me just ask you this question, even if that’s illegitimate, how does that mean that she didn’t do it? How can you be so sure? I mean, they always ask, this is coming up again, up again, people are so obsessed with it and if they were a thousand percent sure I don’t know that they would be obsessed with it. It’s like there is always a little question.”

Steve Moore: “There isn’t a question because here is what happened: You have a burglar going into a room … uh … into a house and he is surprised by a woman coming home. He kills her, he sexually assaults her, he leaves. What happens then is you have his DNA and her DNA, that’s it, on the crime scene. And guess what? We have only that. If Amanda and Raffaele were in the murder room, had anything to do with it, their DNA, their fingerprints, their evidence would be there. [Paul Callan interjects a question] Absence of evidence is evidence of absence.”

Paul Callan: “Is that burglar Rudy Guede though? You are saying the burglar is Rudy Guede? The guy who is in jail now?”

Steve Moore: “Yes, that’s him.”

Paul Callan: “Ok, so that’s Rudy Guede. Ok”

Erin Burnett: “But let me, … ok, ok, before we go, let me … Steve makes a fair point, right? He says that there … Why … What would be the motive of the Italian justice system to go after this American girl if they had the evidence … I don’t get it. I mean would you say we gonna make this up. I don’t understand that.”

Steve Moore: “I can answer that.”

Paul Callan: “Let me just talk about it for a minute, because, Steve’s written a book saying ‘superstition’, ‘religious bias’, ‘scientific ignorance’, this is all from his book. Uhm, you know, I look at the system and say they don’t charge just an American girl. They charge an Italian national, Sollecito, they charge a man from the Ivory Coast with the thing and they charge and American girl, but why do they … why do they single out all of these people for a crime that they, at least two of them, didn’t commit? Let me say one other thing about the case that is really strange, I think in terms of Steve’s approach. Why is everything wrong in this case? The confession is wrong, the DNA is wrong, [Steve Moore interrupts “I can tell you why”] the knife is wrong, the motive is wrong [Steve Moore interjects again “I can tell you”]. The prosecutors are corrupt and they are all superstitious idiots. That’s a little overreaching. I have tried murder cases [Steve Moore interrupts once more “I can tell you why”] and I’ve never seen that before.”

Erin Burnett: “Ok, Steve reply.”

Steve Moore: “The week before the murder, Rudy Guede the burglar, was arrested in Milan for a burglary. The police in Perugia asked the police in Milan to release him without charges and give him his knife back and send him back to Perugia. You know the only reason to do that is that he is a police informant. A week later he murders a woman and the police in town say ‘Oh my God! We got a guy out and he’s killed a woman. How do we save our butts now?’ That’s what this is all about.”

Paul Callan: “And now … and they got the Supreme Court of Italy involved in this conspiracy? You know, that’s like saying that … [Steve Moore interrupts]”

Steve Moore: “Yes, they do. Yes, they do. You are being naive. You don’t understand the Italian system. You don’t understand it. You are defending something you don’t understand.”

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