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 Post subject: PERUGIA 2013
PostPosted: Sat Apr 06, 2013 2:45 pm 
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Pictures in Perugia taken the day I arrived, March 18, 2013. The open shutter on the right is Meredith's window. Parking lot to the left. Distance to Nara Capezzali's window no more than 50-60 meters (confirmed by Google Earth)


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March 18, 2013, from Viale San Antonio. This was where I wondered about the angle of the rock that was allegedly thrown by Rudy Guede. Went back the next day to get better shots. I'd had my doubts from when I first saw the pictures previously posted on PMF and TJMK. How could the right handed Guede throw a 3.8 kg rock at the angle rquired to make it bounce all the way to the other side of the room?

Also, note the blue car in the parking lot above. The iron stairs are right behind it. Nara Capezzali still lives at no. 26 Via dei Melo. Her flat is two or three buildings to the right of the yellow building in the corner. Maria Ilaria Dramis is still at no. 12, several buildings further. Could they have heard the scream that night? Possibly, but I am not sure if it was Meredith's, or Amanda. But the running footsteps? Yes, I believe it was the perps running that night.


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Piazza Grimana, evening of March 18, 2013. Actually called Piazza Braccio Fortebracci I am told, after the condottieri whose remains are buried in Perugia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Braccio_da_Montone


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I believe Antonio Curatolo's account. They were watching out for someone on the night of November 01, 2007.


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Piazza Grimana I.


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Knox and Sollecito could have seen the cottage entrance from here.


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An even better view of the cottage entrance from here.


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Curatolo's benches and the University for Foreigners.


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The intersection of Via della Pergola, Viale San Antonio, and Via Scortici.


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The cottage gate


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View from the cottage driveway. Look up and you can see Piazza Grimana that Knox and Sollecito were peering from at the cottage (where Curatolo saw them that night) The broken down car would have been slightly to the right. The red striped barrier ahead is to the side of the upper parking lot ramp that Meredith would have come down if she took the short cut, or she came down the alley beside Piazza Grimana (where the grey car is parked)

The mid level parking garage (of CCTV fame) is to the left. Either way she might have returned home, I don't see how Meredith could have shown up in the video.


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Via della Pergola begins here.


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Via Scortici, facing towards Via della Pergola.


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A better view of the fence. Note the stones in the retaining wall.


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Facing the other way. Raffaele's home was a 5 minute walk in that direction, with Corso Garibaldi just around the corner.


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Another view of the intersection. The fences were the best vantage point to view the comings and goings. Funny that Curatolo did not see Rudy Guede that night.


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Il Cedro. Where Rudy Guede ate his "bad kebab" that night. I ate there many times, met the owner, observed the drug deals up and down the street. The place is very clean, met the meat supplier, I never had stomach problems. Also likely from cell phone records that Rudy met Amanda near there some time that night. (It's just 150 meters from Piazza Grimana)


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Margherita Conad store @122 Corso Garibaldi (not Quintavalle's) They also have cleaning products, and it's just up the road from Raffaele Sollecito's. People in Perugia don't talk much to police.


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Raffaele's house Corso Garibaldi 110.


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Laundromat near Quintavalle's store.


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Laundromat on Corso Garibaldi 43. Ref: Follain and Raffaele's prison diary. Very possible Amanda Knox washed clothes there that night.


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Cottage Views. Rudy Guede could not have thrown that huge 3.8 kg rock with any degree of accuracy 4-5 meters across from the car lot.


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Cottage views. "Guede" would have had to stand right in the corner to launch his rock. Based on supposed impact point inner scuri.


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...And if the outside wooden shutters were partway closed according to Romanelli the rock should have ended up in the middle of the room. The angles are all wrong.


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Cottage views. From the parking lot above. Foreshortened by lens, but still very close. Nara Capezzali's apartment is almost directly behind me.


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Cottage Views. Note the gravel in the driveway. Could Capezzali have heard people running that night? Possible.


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The flats overlooking the parking lot.


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The flats overlooking the parking lot. Nara Capezzali is either in this building or the one to the left. Hard to tell, since the entrance is on the other side on Via de Melo.

ETA: It's in the building to the left


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The alleyway behind the flats, Via Del Melo.


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The Iron Stairs.


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More views of the stairs two people were heard running up that night.


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The stairs. They've been fixed, yet are still very noisy when running. (I checked)


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The stairs and the parking lot.


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The ramp from the upper parking lot. Meredith, would have returned home down this way as it ends right opposite the cottage gates. Or, she may have come down Villa Della Pergola steps. Either way, she could NOT have been captured on CCTV.


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Rudy's flight down the narrow country road. I walked the entire route to Elisabetta Lana's house, and this set of photographs shows the journey. It is dark at night, and no pedestrian walkway. I had to be careful with cars whizzing by, and it was daylight. I don't see Amanda and Raffaele running down that way in the dark, or Raffaele leaving Amanda alone. He was a non-resident, and this would not be his normal route to his home. It would be for the street wise Rudy, on the other hand, and is more secluded way back. Therefore, I think Rudy Guede ran down this road with Meredith's phones.


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Rudy's flight down this road ends around here. There is no street lighting here so I doubt he realized there was a residence down below, and ditched the phones. I couldn't see a name plate on any of the house gates, so this is my rough guess using Google maps. Elisabetta Lana's house is behind me, to the left.


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Rudy's flight. Much further, around the city walls is the Porta San Angelo Gate. Too far, and a long way back along a busy street to either Rudy or Raffaele's homes. I don't think either of them went that far.


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Rudy's Flight: One side of Via Del Canerino (Little Dog street)


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Rudy's Flight: Instead, I believe he headed back this way.


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Rudy's Flight: The gate in the wall he entered, which opens up onto Rudy's street, Via Del Canerino. Some posters say "gates are shut at night". I was sure I saw no gates. Rudy would know about this short cut, and it would be the safest, most anonymous way back. Elisabetta Lana lives just 200 meters further, and that's where the phones were found.

ETA: Someone posted pictures of the gates taken by another poster. So if Rudy found it shut he might have come in by another entrance a little further down.


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Rudy's Flight: The park is deserted at night.


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Rudy's Flight: And up these stairs?


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Rudy's Flight: And down the other side.


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Rudy's Flight: Just one of the many side streets and back alleys along Corso Garibaldi,


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http://www.overplace.com/cioccolateria- ... ta-perusia

Cioccolateria Augusta Perusia at Via Pinturicchio 2.


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My daily hot chocolate at Augusta Perusia.


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The ramp from the upper parking lot. Meredith, would have returned home down this way as it ends right opposite the cottage gates. Or, she may have come down Villa Della Pergola steps. Either way, she could NOT have been captured on CCTV.


Yes, I think she probably came down this path as it looks safer.


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Ergon wrote:
The ramp from the upper parking lot. Meredith, would have returned home down this way as it ends right opposite the cottage gates. Or, she may have come down Villa Della Pergola steps. Either way, she could NOT have been captured on CCTV.


Yes, I think she probably came down this path as it looks safer.


Hi, and welcome to the forum. The more I looked into it, the steps were the more likely and safer route.


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