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"FALSE CONFESSIONS" EXPERT DR. SAUL KASSIN

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 11:40 pm   Post subject: "FALSE CONFESSIONS" EXPERT DR. SAUL KASSIN   

"FALSE CONFESSIONS" EXPERT DR. SAUL KASSIN



As this site first debated the credentials of various 'experts' on the subject of false confessions, I found it interesting to go over the statements of one Dr. Saul Kassin, a psychologist with an excellent experience in the subject, yet who appears to have become an advocate for Amanda Knox on the basis of uncorroborated allegations made by her.

That is why I posted the following article "AN "EXPERT" CAN ALSO BE AN "IDIOT" - DR. SAUL KASSIN in the main discussion page last week Sunday, July 08, 2012 at 11:14 pm :) Source

One of the phenomena observed in the Amanda Knox case was the number of experts who signed on to what was in effect, an online PR campaign that sought to affect the outcome of a trial in a foreign country, then proceeded to make pronouncements that were not always er, neutral or up to the professional standards of their chosen professions. Some of them even, er, stretched the facts to fit a scenario of innocence.

So we have people like forensic biology professor Dr. Greg Hampikian, accident reconstruction specialist Ron Hendry, and FBI agent Steve Moore, all signing on with the newly minted innocence agency for hire Bruce Fischer's Innocence Anywhere project. Their statements have been thoroughly examined and critiqued before on these pages. Let's just say, we disagree with their findings.

The Friends Of Amanda Knox have lately been touting the views of Dr. Saul Kassin, the "False Confessions" psychologist, who claims, without ever having met or spoken with her, that Amanda Knox was coerced into signing the statements she made.

Bruce Fischer wrote: http://www.groundreport.com/US/The-Aman ... gh/2945940

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"Saul Kassin is a Distinguished Professor of Psychology at John Jay College of Criminal Justice in New York City and Massachusetts Professor of Psychology at Williams College in Williamstown, Massachusetts. Like (Richard) Leo, Kassin is a well-respected expert in false confessions.

Saul Kassin reviewed the Amanda Knox case for the defense on appeal. He concluded that Amanda's confession should be treated with caution".

Looking at this case as a whole,‭ ‬it appears that Amanda Knox was immediately identified as a suspect and presumed her guilty.‭ ‬After three days of denials and interrogations,‭ ‬she is said to have given a confession embodied in two statements.‭ ‬During these sessions Ms.‭ ‬Knox did not have an attorney present and the statements taken were not recorded.‭ ‬As a factual matter,‭ ‬both statements were incorrect,‭ ‬raising questions about the process by which they were taken and Ms.‭ ‬Knox’s mental state at the time.

Basic psychological research shows that lay people and experts have a natural tendency to interpret ambiguous evidence according to existing beliefs.‭ ‬Studies‭ (‬as well as real life cases in the U.S.‭) ‬also specifically show that the presence of a confession,‭ ‬because it creates a strong belief,‭ ‬can contaminate latent fingerprint judgments,‭ ‬eyewitness identifications,‭ ‬and interpretations of other types of evidence.‭ ‬In light of these research findings,‭ ‬the courts would be advised to review the case against Ms.‭ ‬Knox with a full awareness that the confession itself‭—‬and the perceptions and evidence it may have influenced—should be treated with caution
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Bruce Fischer also wrote this on his website on May 10, 2012:

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"This is also posted on the IIP discussion thread.

I have seen little discussion regarding the quotes from Saul Kassin that I included in my article. Many may not know this but Sarah was instrumental in bringing Kassin in to analyze Amanda's interrogation. His work was presented during the appeal. The family had asked that we not release Kassin's work to the public until they received clearance from the attorneys. I know I often state that this case is over but the attorneys rightfully want to keep everything professional until the Italian Supreme Court confirms Hellmann. I am sure everyone can understand that Amanda's attorneys are not concerned about the online debate. I was given permission to use the quotes from Kassin and I will post his entire report when the appropriate time comes.

Kassin's analysis poses a major problem for Amanda's critics. Kassin is a highly respected expert in the field of false confessions. The entire case took a wrong turn as soon as Amanda signed those statements. Without those signatures, the wrongful convictions would have never happened.

We have already heard vast amounts of information telling us that Amanda's signed statements were unreliable. Steve Moore did a great job with his analysis here: http://www.injusticeinperugia.org/FBI7.html.

Kassin provides the definitive answer on the subject, leaving any reasonable person to see that the prepared statements Amanda signed provide nothing of value to the case".


Now, we have already dissected Steve Moore's false assertions above that a) she was interviewed for 8 hours straight b) she was called in to the police station at 10:00 pm in the evening, and c) she was interviewed for 40 hours over a 5 day period.

It is disconcerting then, to see a 'respected specialist in psychology and false confessions' repeat the same defense assertions here: http://mynorthwest.com/11/557096/Amanda ... estigation and here:

http://icestream.bonnint.net/seattle/ki ... 2042_1.mp3 (also uploaded below) which has Knox's statement of being 'hit' and Dr. Kassin saying ""It's not a coincidence that they brought her in for that final interrogation late at night, and it's not a coincidence that while they started to interrogate her at 10 p.m." says Kassin. "The confession, so-called confession, they took wasn't until 6 a.m. Sleep deprivation makes people do a lot of short-term things. Decision making becomes short-term. People don't think clearly when they're sleep deprived."

"Knox reportedly endured a 54-hour interrogation, and said she felt the police betrayed her".

Kassin also repeats the oft repeated Knoxii lament about how the "Italian roommates immediately lawyered up" whereas poor Amanda, being twenty years old and convinced she's innocent, thought she would be set free, and this was her downfall, when she should have insisted on a lawyer.

He also says, interestingly since the Italian Supreme Court did accept her second statement, that US police are allowed to lie to suspects, and the US Supreme Court allowed such measures in 1969.

He also makes several assertions, that if she was a suspect from the beginning, the police should have a reasonable explanation for that, and he's convinced therefore that the interrogation was taped. That she had to endure "12 straight hours of interrogation", that she was "stressed and manipulated", that the translator was "hostile", and she got "hit on the head". In the end, when he says "she was innocent, she did not do anything wrong", he's so clearly morphed from neutral specialist to Knox advocate it's hard to say if that's his own opinion or he's merely quoting from his research arguments.

Anyhow, here's two references to his work: http://psycnet.apa.org/index.cfm?fa=buy ... -11471-001 and
http://www.injusticeinperugia.org/Kassi ... 5_read.pdf , and you can decide if the known facts of Knox's case applies to his theory of false confessions or not.

This may or may not convince those who believe in Knox's innocence, but:
a) she wasn't called in to the station at 10:00 pm. but Raffaele Sollecito was hauled in when he said he was too busy to come in earlier; Knox tagged along.
b) her 'gift' statement was voluntary and ruled admissable
c) she wasn't sleep deprived, but got up to make her statement. She also was given breaks and refreshments.
d) she was stressed because the police told her Sollecito wasn't confirming her alibi any more, which was true, yet Dr. Kassin admits that in the US, police can legally lie? Smacks of double standards.
e) That the roommates immediately 'lawyered up' had to do with their tenancy and getting back their laptops which had also been seized by the police, and contained privileged information from their jobs, and yet is thrown in as what? A counterpoint to Knox's naivety? Fine, but naivety, does not equate with innocence, counselor.

Anyhow, the statements above are confusing, so:

1: Did Saul Kassin "review the case for defense on appeal" or, was "His work presented during the appeal"? I don't recall him being cross examined, please clarify.
2: Could he explain the source for his assertions as to how long Amanda Knox had been interrogated? Did he review the Italian police records or Massei and Micheli judgements, or even speak to Knox's Italian attorneys? Because much of his statements were never raised in court, and would negate his basic premise for the way in which the inocent can be coerced into making false confessions.
3: Why is the full report not being released so we can review his findings? Knox is supposedly home free, and the Supreme Court isn't going to hear any new evidence. Surely he must realize that making such accusations requires he back it up with something more than the statements of an accused person. Why's he (and Bruce Fischer) afraid to prove their argument?

In the end, we are left with several, sad thoughts:

- the number of 'experts' willing to compromise their professionalism to hop on to a media bandwagon and get on the paid expert gravy train.
- how justice can be weakened by such creative stretchings of the truth.
- it appears that in order to sell brand Knox they must negate the greatest point against her; she accused an innocent man. For that, they're trying to promote the 'false confession' scenario.
- that the behaviour of Amanda Knox when she fell under suspicion was not that of an innocent person, but, of a sociopath who, along with her drugged up boy friend, thought they had got away with murder.


Dr. Saul Kassin's interview:



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 11:53 pm   Post subject: Re: "FALSE CONFESSIONS" EXPERT DR. SAUL KASSIN   

http://mynorthwest.com/11/557096/Amanda ... estigation

Updated Oct 4, 2011 - 4:56 pm
Amanda Knox's innocence may have put her at risk in murder investigation

By Jamie Griswold
MyNorthwest.com Editor

"Hours and hours of interrogation ended with a confusing confession, but Amanda Knox maintained her innocence for four years. Is it possible her innocence was her biggest enemy?
A professor of psychology says Knox's innocence actually put her at risk in the police investigation of the murder of her roommate Meredith Kercher.

"Amanda Knox did nothing wrong, and she did the thing that innocent people do - 'I have nothing to fear. I have nothing to hide. If the police think I can help them, I'll stay back and help them,'" says Dr. Saul Kassin at John Jay College of Criminal Justice. "The one difference between Amanda Knox and all the other roommates is, that all the other British roommates left town. All the Italian roommates lawyered-up."

Kassin, who pioneered a scientific study of false confessions, tells 97.3 KIRO FM's John Curley Show that an innocent person might take comfort in their innocence and that can put them in a precarious position with authorities.

"They don't lawyer up - 'You want the keys to my car, here it is. You want my clothing, here it is. Keys to my house, here it is. Want me to take a lie detector test, happy to do it,'" says Kassin. "In a funny way, the state of being innocent puts the innocent person at risk."

The innocent think that their innocence alone will protect them"
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 12:03 am   Post subject: Re: "FALSE CONFESSIONS" EXPERT DR. SAUL KASSIN   

The Live Stream of the Dr. Kassin interview with 97.3 KIRO FM The John Churley Show dated Oct. 03, 2011.

Why did Amanda Knox Confess?

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 12:19 am   Post subject: Re: "FALSE CONFESSIONS" EXPERT DR. SAUL KASSIN   

An excellent rebuttal of Dr. Kassin's flawed defense of Amanda Knox by TJMK main poster The Machine, http://www.truejustice.org/ee/index.php ... isleading/
posted Tuesday, July 10, 2012 ;)

Isn't today a good day to bury the stupid hatchet? Happy Birthday to Marcel Proust, and every one else born today :)
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 12:59 am   Post subject: Re: "FALSE CONFESSIONS" EXPERT DR. SAUL KASSIN   

Closing Keynote Address by Prof. Kassin at John Jay College of Criminal Justice

International Conference Global Perspectives on Justice, Security and Human Rights June 6-9, 2012 New York City
Keynote Address: Page 30
Why Confessions Trump Innocence: The Case of Amanda Knox
Saul Kasin, PhD

"Dr. Kassin is a Distinguished Professor of Psychology at John Jay College of Criminal Justice
in New York. He received his PhD at the University of Connecticut. He later served as a
postdoctoral research fellow at the University of Kansas; taught at Purdue University; served
as a U. S. Supreme Court Judicial Fellow, working at the Federal Judicial Center; and was a
postdoctoral research fellow and visiting professor at Stanford University. Several years ago,
Kassin pioneered the scientific study of false confessions by creating a taxonomy of three
types that is widely accepted and developing experimental paradigms that enable tests of why
innocent people are targeted for interrogation, why they confess, and the impact this evidence
has on juries. Interested in matters of policy and reform, some of his current research is
funded by the National Science Foundation.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 1:05 am   Post subject: Re: "FALSE CONFESSIONS" EXPERT DR. SAUL KASSIN   

Prof. Kassin's online article for American Psychologist:

American Psychologist
Why Confessions Trump Innocence
Saul M. Kassin
Online First Publication, April 30, 2012. doi: 10.1037/a0028212


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 7:27 pm   Post subject: KASSIN ERRATA   

The current print edition of American Psychologist has made several corrections to Dr. Kassin's online article posted here on July 21. Courtesy of brmull on .ORG:

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In the article “Why Confessions Trump Innocence,” by Saul M. Kassin (American Psychologist , Vol. 67, No. 6, pp. 431–445, this issue; published Online First April 30, 2012), minor corrections should be made in the description of the Amanda Knox case. The author thanks those whose feedback prompted these changes: (1) On p. 431, paragraph 1, line 5, “the only one” should be deleted; (2) on p. 431, paragraph 2, lines 10–12, “She was told, falsely, that Sollecito, her boyfriend, disavowed her alibi and that physical evidence placed her at the scene” should read “She was told that Sollecito, her boyfriend, disavowed her alibi, which he later retracted, and that physical evidence placed her at the scene, which was not true”; (3) on p. 433, paragraph 2, lines 3–4, “her English roommates left Perugia;” should be deleted; (4) on p. 436, paragraph 3, lines 8–10, “Two weeks later, the rapist whose DNA was found in sperm and other biological matter at the crime scene was apprehended” should read “Two weeks later, Rudy Guede, who was convicted of murdering Meredith Kercher and whose DNA was found inside her body and throughout the crime scene, was apprehended”; (5) on p. 436, paragraph 3, line 13, “the rapist” should be replaced with “Guede”; (6) on p. 441, paragraph 3, line 13, “Knox's British roommates” should be replaced with “Kercher's friends.”


These are minor corrections, made only after intense pressure from us at PMF and TJMK, though he might revisit the corrections I underlined. Kudos to every one who took the time to write to him to correct the record, though he still has not clarified whether he had been retained by the defence, as claimed by Bruce Fischer and co. This might speak to his credibility on the issue. Reading his article, I also note his sources:

1:Additional sources to which I had access include the translated police reports of Knox’s statements; personal communications with Amanda Knox, Madison Paxton, and Nina Burleigh; and the Perugia Murder File translation of the Jury/Judge Conviction Report.

Dr. Kassin might also look at the following paragraph in his artice, and er, rewrite that too?

"Her final interrogation started on November 5 at 10 p.m. and lasted until November 6 at 6 a.m., during which time she was alone, without an attorney, tag-teamed by a dozen police, and did not break for food or sleep"

I've already asked what the literature says about the difference between false confessions and false accusations, or the incidence of white women that falsely accuse black men, but so far received no reply :)
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2015 4:32 pm   Post subject: Re: "FALSE CONFESSIONS" EXPERT DR. SAUL KASSIN   

Forensic Magazine
Forging Forensic Science: Dr. Saul Kassin on Amanda Knox and the Truth behind False Confessions 03/27/2015
by Sean Allocca, Editor
Quote:
According to Kassin, false confessions have little to do with the individual suspects or motivations, but instead are a natural product of an archaic interrogation protocol that can be intimidating and often flawed, and certainly in need of modification. “It’s very sad,” he said about the Knox case. “It seems like so many of these cases are all alike.”
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 1:56 am   Post subject: Re: "FALSE CONFESSIONS" EXPERT DR. SAUL KASSIN   

Originally posted here: BRUCE FISCHER'S REVIEW OF "MEREDITH"
Thu Jun 07, 2012 3:07 pm
Our newest member Bruce Fischer has just published a review of John Kercher's book "Meredith" at http://www.groundreport.com/US/The-Aman ... gh/2945940
"Amanda Knox Case and The Norfolk Four Highlight Irreparable Damage Caused By Wrongful Convictions" ~ Bruce Fischer May 08, 2012

Fischer has written a contentious review that I invite our regular members to read, and critique any points they wish. Here's what I can come up for now.

- He concludes there are similarities between the Norfolk 4 and Amanda Knox in terms of lack of evidence which places the accused at the crime scene.

I disagree. There was literally NO evidence in the case of the Norfolk 4, except their supposed 'confessions'. That case is contentious because we are led to believe that FOUR separate servicemen were coerced into signing false confessions for the rape and murder of a navy wife. On the other hand there is ample forensic and other evidence that places Knox and Sollecito at the crime scene, and while any one can trawl the internet to come up with cases that seem similar, that does not make them the same. Also, Knox did not confess to a crime, she accused an innocent man. In what way is that similar to the Norfolk Four?

- He raises the specter of false confessions.
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"Of course Amanda Knox never confessed to committing any crime,‭ but ‬the prepared statements that she signed placed her at the scene of the crime so they served the same purpose as a confession for the prosecution.‭

In both cases,‭ ‬the families of the victims were left to struggle with the phenomenon of false confessions.‭ ‬It is a subject that many have difficulty believing.‭ ‬How could anyone possibly incriminate themselves if they were innocent‭? ‬Its a valid question,‭ ‬and one that has been written about extensively by experts like Richard Leo in the Norfolk case and and Saul Kassin in the Knox case.‭

Saul Kassin is a Distinguished Professor of Psychology at John Jay College of Criminal Justice in New York City and Massachusetts Professor of Psychology at Williams College in Williamstown, Massachusetts. Like Leo, Kassin is a well-respected expert in false confessions.

Saul Kassin reviewed the Amanda Knox case for the defense on appeal. He concluded that Amanda's confession should be treated with caution.

“Looking at this case as a whole,‭ ‬it appears that Amanda Knox was immediately identified as a suspect and presumed her guilty.‭ ‬After three days of denials and interrogations,‭ ‬she is said to have given a confession embodied in two statements.‭ ‬During these sessions Ms.‭ ‬Knox did not have an attorney present and the statements taken were not recorded.‭ ‬As a factual matter,‭ ‬both statements were incorrect,‭ ‬raising questions about the process by which they were taken and Ms.‭ ‬Knox’s mental state at the time.

Basic psychological research shows that lay people and experts have a natural tendency to interpret ambiguous evidence according to existing beliefs.‭ ‬Studies‭ (‬as well as real life cases in the U.S.‭) ‬also specifically show that the presence of a confession,‭ ‬because it creates a strong belief,‭ ‬can contaminate latent fingerprint judgments,‭ ‬eyewitness identifications,‭ ‬and interpretations of other types of evidence.‭ ‬In light of these research findings,‭ ‬the courts would be advised to review the case against Ms.‭ ‬Knox with a full awareness that the confession itself‭—‬and the perceptions and evidence it may have influenced—should be treated with caution.”


This is the sort of expert that the burgeoning "Innocence Industry" trots out to defend anyone they decide is the victim of unfair prosecution. I am familiar with Professor Kassin's work on Trait Psychology and illusory prejudice but feel his advertisement as the "expert on false confessions" makes him er, somewhat vulnerable to accusations of bias. That he should take statements provided by the defense and decide that she may have been coerced beggars belief, not only because he never interviewed Amanda, but an um, impartial referee might try to look at the prosecution argument as well, before he hops on the Innocence bandwagon? I wonder if he appreciates he is in effect saying that coercion somehow makes physical evidence unreliable? I appreciate the work of genuine Innocence Projects, but this has started as the media driven Amanda Project, to be brutally honest, and is attended by, media groupies.

- Lastly, Bruce makes much of John Kercher's supposed '35-40 errors' and blames it all on TJMK, and our own The Machine. I invite them to respond here. I will reply to one, specific claim he makes:

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"Kercher claims that bleach was bought the morning after the murder by Knox. He even mentions evidence of bleach receipts."


Simply, not true: From the Kindle edition of "Meredith" Speaking of the shopkeeper Quintavalle:

"He claimed that when he opened up the shop, she entered and went to the section where the cleaning products were kept. Though he testified that he was not certain what it was that she had bought, the police who made a search of Sollecito’s home testified that they had found a receipt for cleaning products from the same shop. After the murder police found several bottles of bleach in Raffaele's flat, but his cleaner confirmed that she had never seen bleach there before"

Before Fischer looks at John Kercher's errors, perhaps he should look to his own?
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 3:35 am   Post subject: Re: "FALSE CONFESSIONS" EXPERT DR. SAUL KASSIN   

Originally posted here WHO'S SAUL KASSIN?
Fri Jul 13, 2012

One of the benefits of FOAKER Tuesday was how the Fans of Amanda Knox showed up just when we thought we were rid of them :) and ended up making fools of themselves.
Case in point, to see how the Professor Saul Kassin story unfolded over the last two months on this site:

- Sub head honcho Bruce Fischer refers to a 'review' of 'all the errors' in John Kercher's book Meredith.
- I ask for a link and he sends the Ground Report article on the Norfolk Four which is all about "false confessions" and liberally quotes Kassin as proof that Knox is innocent.
- We have a lot of fun here making fun of an expert who has never met Knox or reviewed the full case files but "pontificates from afar" (Note to Rose Montague, who thought that was funny: I never used my professional credentials to diagnose Knox or proclaim her innocent or guilty, there's the difference)
- Looking at their whingeing complaints about my picking on Kassin back on their own site I noted Bruce Fischer boasting how 'Sarah Snyder was instrumental in bringing Professor Kassin in to the case', and how his 'report was presented to the court'?
- I send the link to my good friend The Machine because he can do a better job than I listing all the factual inaccuracies, but first, of course, publish my own critique two days earlier. Note to our colleagues on dot org and TJMK, glad you're running with it, but Dot Net got there first :)
- Bottom line though, is that professor Kassin's credibility is shot, no matter how the other side promotes him as 'the foremost expert in false confessions'.

Yet, this is America after all. It grants instant respectability to so called 'academics' and 'experts', hence my unfortunate post title "AN 'EXPERT' CAN ALSO BE AN 'IDIOT'". I don't expect a reply to either my or The Machine's criticisms. By all means, those who are willing to sign their names to a letter or send emails or tweets, do so.

Remember CPJ and how they added their good name to the Knox campaign because one of the FOA (Douglas Preston) was a financial donor? Judge Michael Heavey? FBI agent Steve Moore? We complained, but the media juggernaut always ignores the victims.

The President of the United States lied, and two million Iraqis died as a result. The lies of a paid for hire consultant pale by comparison, but it still is important to record the lies, for posterity, and teach our children accordingly.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 6:13 am   Post subject: KASSIN CORRECTS   

Originally posted here KASSIN ERRATA Sun Oct 28, 2012
The current print edition of American Psychologist has made several corrections to Dr. Kassin's online article posted here on July 21. Courtesy of brmull on .ORG:
Quote:
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In the article “Why Confessions Trump Innocence,” by Saul M. Kassin (American Psychologist , Vol. 67, No. 6, pp. 431–445, this issue; published Online First April 30, 2012), minor corrections should be made in the description of the Amanda Knox case. The author thanks those whose feedback prompted these changes: (1) On p. 431, paragraph 1, line 5, “the only one” should be deleted; (2) on p. 431, paragraph 2, lines 10–12, “She was told, falsely, that Sollecito, her boyfriend, disavowed her alibi and that physical evidence placed her at the scene” should read “She was told that Sollecito, her boyfriend, disavowed her alibi, which he later retracted, and that physical evidence placed her at the scene, which was not true”; (3) on p. 433, paragraph 2, lines 3–4, “her English roommates left Perugia;” should be deleted; (4) on p. 436, paragraph 3, lines 8–10, “Two weeks later, the rapist whose DNA was found in sperm and other biological matter at the crime scene was apprehended” should read “Two weeks later, Rudy Guede, who was convicted of murdering Meredith Kercher and whose DNA was found inside her body and throughout the crime scene, was apprehended”; (5) on p. 436, paragraph 3, line 13, “the rapist” should be replaced with “Guede”; (6) on p. 441, paragraph 3, line 13, “Knox's British roommates” should be replaced with “Kercher's friends.”

These are minor corrections, made only after intense pressure from us at PMF and TJMK, though he might revisit the corrections I underlined. Kudos to every one who took the time to write to him to correct the record, though he still has not clarified whether he had been retained by the defence, as claimed by Bruce Fischer and co. This might speak to his credibility on the issue. Reading his article, I also note his sources:

1:Additional sources to which I had access include the translated police reports of Knox’s statements; personal communications with Amanda Knox, Madison Paxton, and Nina Burleigh; and the Perugia Murder File translation of the Jury/Judge Conviction Report.

Dr. Kassin might also look at the following paragraph in his artice, and er, rewrite that too?

"Her final interrogation started on November 5 at 10 p.m. and lasted until November 6 at 6 a.m., during which time she was alone, without an attorney, tag-teamed by a dozen police, and did not break for food or sleep"

I've already asked what the literature says about the difference between false confessions and false accusations, or the incidence of white women that falsely accuse black men, but so far received no reply :)
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